keep in mind the pitch purple is symetrical core compared to a-sym on the crux. plus the crux is suppose to be a pearl version but he lowered the surface number. so the core is what is doing the work here not the surface.
@nick 1208 Symmetricals generally hook less than asyms. And he didn’t lower the surface number. Omega Crux comes out as 3000 and this one was around 4500. In fact , increased it. And in any case the coverstock always does more work than the core.
the phaze III is a fantastic ball. my average has increased by over 20pins in 6 games of league playing usiong this ball. i am getting a much more consistant and predictable read on the oil pattern
@Levi and Jordan Bowling i went from a 200 up to a 220 in 6 games with this ball. Its possible. I bowl traditional and 2 handed depending on pattern. And its very easy to switch between both styles with this ball
@David Clark No some of the balls you mentioned are not urethane. Just because the marketing adds that word in a ball description, doesnt mean that suddenly a bunch of balls are urethane. If it has pores and absorbes oil, it is not “a urethane ball”. Simple as that.
@Cooper Gates I understand but we are not talking about hybrid urethanes. I have 2 hybrid urethanes btw. We were talking about when we can call a ball plain urethane.
@Cooper Gates We would be splitting hairs at that point. Would you prefer that we call urethane balls “colored urethane”? It is redundant. We already know and see they are colored…
They probably used something other than resin to give it a shape more like a reactive ball. It’s not clear from that alone what its oil absorption rate is.
Not trying to be rude please don’t take this that way. However I guess I missed what the point of this video was besides the pitch purple and the Omega being very similar balls when surface is similar
Not once did they talk about ball speed, which on the first shot we saw that he threw the Omega crux 1mph almost faster than the Pitch Purple. Hence why it hooked less… In my opinion if you’re playing the same line, speed becomes the most important piece of information.
Agreed because I throw around 14 MPH and you’ll see a huge difference in which ball hooks the most. If I threw these two, the Omega Crux would hook significantly more than the Pitch Purple.
I found that very surprising that according to SPECTO that the Pitch Purple actually had more overall hook than the Omega.
keep in mind the pitch purple is symetrical core compared to a-sym on the crux. plus the crux is suppose to be a pearl version but he lowered the surface number. so the core is what is doing the work here not the surface.
@nick 1208 Symmetricals generally hook less than asyms. And he didn’t lower the surface number. Omega Crux comes out as 3000 and this one was around 4500. In fact , increased it. And in any case the coverstock always does more work than the core.
@The Therion it shows a 3000 finish but it has a pearl reactive coverstock. pearl coverstocks are higher than a 4500 finish
@nick 1208 You are mistaken. Any kind of coverstock can be at any kind of grit number…
nick 1208 omega crux is sanded out of box. It is a pearl yes but it’s sanded.
Hey Ron, this is Levi from Levi and Jordan Bowling… and I was wondering your opinion on the Phaze III
Ronald Hickland Jr I’m in love with my Phaze 3 already…Thinking of getting more CtD cleaner haha-Levi
the phaze III is a fantastic ball. my average has increased by over 20pins in 6 games of league playing usiong this ball. i am getting a much more consistant and predictable read on the oil pattern
nick 1208 have not thrown in league yet! But hope it can raise my 210 average 😂
@Levi and Jordan Bowling i went from a 200 up to a 220 in 6 games with this ball. Its possible. I bowl traditional and 2 handed depending on pattern. And its very easy to switch between both styles with this ball
Phaze 3 is extremely sharp and tough to use.
That IKON though.
Did you change the surface on both of these balls by hand?
more than likely yes. he prob used his CTD tru cut sanding pads.
Yes we did
Another great video Ron! Thanks, but how many times are they going to oil lane three?
They probably testing out a new lane oil machine
What’s the weight of those balls? Pitch Purple is Urethane, right?
15 lbs. We would call it reactive since it has plasticizer in it.
I was told that the pitch purple is a urethane by a storm staffer. But love the shape that it makes no matter what
@Eric Fry Storm clearly mentions in their website that Pitch Purple is solid. So it has plasticizer in it, so no, it’s not urethane.
Ball speed variation is key… I believe we naturally begin to decrease speed the farther from the gutter we get.
I lIke the videos, but you going to fast with your camera. I told you before. Love from Holland.
Omega is more hook than pitch purple. Pitch purple is not 100% urethane
@David Clark No some of the balls you mentioned are not urethane. Just because the marketing adds that word in a ball description, doesnt mean that suddenly a bunch of balls are urethane. If it has pores and absorbes oil, it is not “a urethane ball”. Simple as that.
@The Therion David’s right. The Motiv Combat Tank would be another example, a hybrid urethane ball (I have one, by the way).
@Cooper Gates I understand but we are not talking about hybrid urethanes. I have 2 hybrid urethanes btw. We were talking about when we can call a ball plain urethane.
@The Therion You could say no ball is due to at least pigments. Pure polyurethane is white
@Cooper Gates We would be splitting hairs at that point. Would you prefer that we call urethane balls “colored urethane”? It is redundant. We already know and see they are colored…
will the pitch purple still create a lot of pushdown like other urethane balls
No
Yes it will
@jace welsh You are still at it? Ron knows more than you, try to learn something. Pitch Purple is not urethane. Deal with it.
@The Therion “Rev Control Solid Urethane”
They probably used something other than resin to give it a shape more like a reactive ball. It’s not clear from that alone what its oil absorption rate is.
Not trying to be rude please don’t take this that way. However I guess I missed what the point of this video was besides the pitch purple and the Omega being very similar balls when surface is similar
That is the point. See which one best suits you and your game.
Ronald Hickland Jr thanks! If they are similar, wouldn’t both fit said person’s game?
@gtrraider84 similar yes but not the same. Watch the video again Dustin explains the difference
Huh a bowling channel.
Neat
Pitch Purple is a beast! Mild reactive? Hardly.
It might be my layout but my pitch purple has like zero hook.
ItsDolphinn its possible. my purple is fine but my crux prime is drilled wrong and it feels like it has no hook. so yes thats a possibility
Great video love the info
Not once did they talk about ball speed, which on the first shot we saw that he threw the Omega crux 1mph almost faster than the Pitch Purple. Hence why it hooked less… In my opinion if you’re playing the same line, speed becomes the most important piece of information.
I see 18.8 vs. 19.0 on the 1st two shots.
Agreed because I throw around 14 MPH and you’ll see a huge difference in which ball hooks the most. If I threw these two, the Omega Crux would hook significantly more than the Pitch Purple.
You kinda sound like Joe Rogan
If you don’t mind me asking, what was that phone app you used to measure the cover?
If you’re talking about when they measured the grit of the balls. That isn’t a phone app it’s a special instrument for measuring it
“1.2 board difference” .8 boy
If the pitch purple is a “modern” urethane and it creates carry down and the omega absorbs oil can you play in the same line for both balls?