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34 Comments on “How To Find Your Positive Axis Point (PAP) And Why It’s Important.”

  1. If you have a ball cup, or something similar, you can help take the guess work out. Treat that inner flare ring as an equator and line it up parallel to the table/surface the cup is on, or at least as close as possible. The top “point” of the ball should be the positive axis point. Again, takes a lot of the trial and error out of it.

    1. In order to properly determine a bowling balls performance .Yes they should or else it is just a guess.

    1. Hung Pham your positive axis point is the same as long as you release the ball the same each time. Once you know what your positive axis point dimensions are, for example 4 inches over and 1/2 inches up, then every new ball is laid out using that reference point and manufacturers recommendations for desired performance.

  2. I will need to find someone other than my ProShop operator. He’s there 1-2 days a week for only a few hours. THANK YOU FOR THIS INFO!!

  3. Once you find that inside oil line. YOu can put your hand along that line. Then you twist the ball left and right and look at the point of the ball where it doesnt rotate. Thats your pap. You would start by putting the tape in that position first. If you dont have access to your pro shop guy and you have to do it Manually!! =D

  4. What happens if a newbie buys a bowling ball for the first time how will the pro shop determine the pap? Thanks

    1. New players should usually start with plastic anyway and make sure they have a good fit without any problems like torn skin or whatever since the layout on plastic is rather neglectable. After that you can get a more realistic reading of the players pap and start from there with reactive.

  5. Will you do a video, on bowling ball resurfacing with a ball spinner? I want to learn to do my own maintance.

    1. Yea, where to put the pin, when you use one grit over the ball, do u cut Perpendicular with the next grit, or keep going in the same line. Just to get all the specifics. 180-1000 is what im trying to accomplish

  6. Will your pap change from your hand position at time of release. Let’s say you release the ball with your hand straight up behind the ball, versus if you have your fingers toward the left side. Does it matter either way?

    1. It can change but it’s harder than yoyay think. Normally you are changing your axis rotation and or tilt with hand position.

  7. How do you use the pin to PAP distance to keep the ball from rolling over the finger holes? More distance help?

    1. Rolling over the holes is a release issue not a Pin to PAP issue normally. Especially if it’s rolling over the holes initially. So trying a wrist brace can help. If it rolling over the holes later then it’s a flaring issue and can be solved with layouts that flare less or balls that have less differential.

  8. How much can a pap change? I have changed my release a little bit and am wondering if it will affect my pap.

    1. This video just kind of gave me that “aha” moment. I understand what the PAP is now. So, I feel confident in saying that yes, if you change how you release the ball (any ball, for that matter) your PAP will be different.

  9. so what happens if your PAP is not in the right place? Meaning if a pro shop drilled a ball w/o knowing or finding this information. How does this affect your reaction, release and performance?

  10. What I did was use multiple pieces of tape around a good guess point and did a slow mo recording and looked for the color that didnt wobble. Helps gets 3 or more rolls done per roll.

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